Well that sucks

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 12/09/2018 at 23:29 • Filed to: g21 sportswagon, wagons, wagon, 3 series, g20 3 series

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No G 21 3 series wagon for USA

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I have been reading good things about the n ew & mproved G20 and was looking forward to it. I’ll be honest though, can never afford one new so no point lamenting any more. Still, was hoping to pick up a CPO under $30K sometime in the future.

I guess for me and others wanting one, a used 2019(last year in US) 330i or 328D is the final chance to get a newish 3 series wagon.

At least there’s the Volvo V60.

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/09/2018 at 23:24

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They’d rather sell us a godforsaken X4, apparently.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Textured Soy Protein 12/09/2018 at 23:25

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Ban all coupe-crossovers!

Variance > Textured Soy Protein 12/09/2018 at 23:32

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AKA, “We looked at the sales  numbers and sell exponentially more X4s”, unfortunately.

Nick Has an Exocet > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/09/2018 at 23:36

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IF BMW was smart, they would throw high springs, bigger tires, and a little removable body cladding on there and call it the 3 Series XUV then up-sell enthusiasts to take it off and lower it back down. USA solved.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Nick Has an Exocet 12/09/2018 at 23:39

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Can you be the BMW CEO instead?

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/09/2018 at 23:41

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Turn around to see my shocked face.

pip bip - choose Corrour > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/09/2018 at 23:41

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BMW are stupid

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/09/2018 at 23:54

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That back is exactly how. Gs350 wagon would look... and  I want it.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 00:19

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At least we'll still get a 5-door version of a 4-door version of a 2-door version of a 4-door car.

jimz > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/10/2018 at 00:31

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you’re saying they’re “stupid” because they won’t make a bunch of unsellable shit to sit on dealer lots forever? Car companies exist to make vehicles people buy new.  They don’t exist to lose their shirts making lot poison for internet people to argue about but not buy because they can’t afford a new car. 

Nick Has an Exocet > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 00:33

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I am available and willing. My current company just wrote be a $65k/yr IOU instead of a raise, so my body is ready.

Nick Has an Exocet > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 00:33

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I am available and willing. My current company just wrote be a $65k/yr IOU instead of a raise, so my body is ready.

camarov6rs > Nick Has an Exocet 12/10/2018 at 00:38

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With new wagons from Buick, Jaguar, Volvo, Audi and Mercedes I highly doubt BMW will leave the segment alone. Their unending need to ploiferate their lineup to further and further heights dictates that they leave no soil unturned!

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 00:52

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If the States are anything like Oz (where X line vehicles account for 60% of sales and growing) then colour me unsurprised. Throw in tariffy like things on top and I wonder why you are disappointed in BMW.

We aren’t getting the 3 series wagon either. But we’ll continue seeing the 5 series wagon...and it’s not like we aren’t spoilt for wagon choice anyway...

dannyzabolotny > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 01:16

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No big loss... the 3-series wagon has been dead to me since the E91 anyways, since that was the last generation where you could get both a manual and a straight-6 engine. Now it’s all automatic 4-bangers, no thanks. Those N20 engines are straight garbage.

Fresh-Outta-Nissans > Nick Has an Exocet 12/10/2018 at 04:08

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Weirdly, that didn’t work.

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 04:35

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Sadness. I’ve fallen in love with my E46 Touring with the manual. I am the kind of person who buys new stuff, I’ve already told my wife when the Outback lease is over I’m buying a new BMW wagon. Guess not. ...sigh...

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 05:17

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The mindset of waiting for one used is why these cars don’t come here anymore. They’ll never make these for the used market, if you want one go get an F31 for under $30k. Hell, there’s an ‘09 LCI E91 M sport auto in my area for $18k but I’ve got bigger plans.

If so many people didn’t wait until the secondhand market, I wouldn’t have to special order a V60 from the dealer just to get what I want, but that is what I am going to have to do. I may just hold on to it forever in that case.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 12/10/2018 at 07:37

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Gee, wish I was rich enough to plop down $50+k on a new car. Hell I can’t even afford the lease payments on that that. Maybe you can, most people cannot.

Your statement of people’s mindset of waiting for the used car assumes people have the money to do so but simply waits for a used car regardless. I can only buy the car which I can afford. And if a used 3 series wagon is not available at that price, tough shit. It would be nice to have that option, but I understand if the market for new ones doesn’t exist in the first place. I didnt curse out BMW for stopping the wagon becuase it ruins my plans 5 years from now. Used G20 sedans will come into that marketplace anyway.

That’s basically what I said in the post. And if I can’t talk about that on a forum like this where else would I?

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 09:13

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You don’t need to spend $50k. A decently optioned V60 momentum is more powerful, looks better, and can be $45-46k before any incentives. A lease with a little down would be affordable for a lot of people there.

BahamaTodd > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 12/10/2018 at 09:30

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Has the Gran Coupe been confirmed for the next generation?

I assume it will since it sells better than the actual coupe.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > BahamaTodd 12/10/2018 at 09:45

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I was referring to the existence of the 6 GT . Don't think we'll get a 3 GT, as we have a 4 GT that seems to be doing fine.

functionoverfashion > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/10/2018 at 09:52

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This makes me sad, too. I’d love to keep buying used ones until I could actually afford a new one. But that’s not how this works, I guess.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 12/10/2018 at 10:07

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Again, missing the point. What difference does 45 K vs. 50K make to someone whose max is under $30K?

Even a $30K loan is $541 a month for 5 years at current interest rates for excellent credit.

And I always put at least 10% down so in reality my loan is around $25K. Assuming a $5k down...

That’s a lot of money for 5 years At least you own the car at the end of it. And if you take a lease with a down payment for about the same amount ($450 to $550) it has to be an absolute stripper model worth $47,395, see. Not even heated seats. Sure you can say you have a 3 series wagon for 3 years but not even basic features you’d find on economy cars these days.

Do you expect me to blindly go by just monthly payment and say “I can either spend $500 a month on a used car or a new lease , I guess they’re both exactly the same because $500 is $500 ” without considering all the other factors in leasing vs buying?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 12/10/2018 at 11:12

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The V60 is the only option going forward. Good thing it seems to be an excellent vehicle.

Hopefully you can find a lightly used 2019 330i for at least 4 years after.

Nick Has an Exocet > Fresh-Outta-Nissans 12/10/2018 at 22:02

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That’s restyled and ugly. Doesn’t count!